Need Help For Building A Pc.

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  1. Squidword

    Squidword Active Member

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    Hello everyone,
    I am currently planning on building a pc. The thing I need help with is choosing a good pc for not too much money and that I can upgrade later on. So around the price of £300 - £400.

    This is what I have come up with so far, but it is way too expensive.
    http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/qBkcFT

    Then the video card is:
    Asus R9 270X Direct CUII TOP 2GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card
    From Ebuyer.com

    Could anyone help me by telling me what parts are good to buy or by using a website(s) to create a list of parts for around £300 - £550?

    -squid


    EDIT: Max money spend £550 (around that)
     
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  2. XiXGoldeyXiX

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    You'd also need a graphics card?

    Also, if this was Norway, which is where I live, you wouldn't get a descent computer for that price, but Norway is expensive, so I'm not good with price comparisons with a "foreign" currency.
     
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    I'd reccomend a NVIDIA video card, but that's me. Unfortunately, I'm unable to provide any other feedback, as this is as far my knowledge goes.

    Good luck!
     
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    I have never built a pc before so this is my advice: Go for a intel core I3 processor as it might be a bit cheaper


    Good luck!!!

    :cool:
     
  6. Squidword

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    That looks fine except try to buy 2x4 ram instead of two 1x4's and I'd reccomend a CPU like the i5 4440 over the 8350. I used to have an 8320 which is just an under clocked 8350 and I was pretty disappointed by it.
     
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    I'd still look into Nvidia video cards :)
     
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    Yeah but I think he should get the basic PC set up first. I do love Nvidia as I'm getting a MSI GTX 970 around my birthday which is coming up soon
     
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    I prefer Nvidia too, but there's nothing wrong with AMD cards in my opinion.
     
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    I might be mistaken, but is that CPU cooler really neccesary? I've got a pretty descent gaming computer, running a i5 2500, and it's only using the normal cooling fan that came with it, haven't had a issue with overheat. That could save you some money, and I'd also try to upgrade to a 770 video card. It's not much more expensive than the 760, but the performance is better. I got that same suggestion when buying my 770.
     
  15. eightnine

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    Mrawr! New PC hotness! Awesome. I love building them they're fantastic.

    Since it sounds like you're relatively new to building PCs, I'd like to offer up some suggestions that may help you out.

    I don't like the build you have linked there. You have an Intel Core i5 4440 selected. If you're looking to stick with an i5, spend the extra dollar on the 4460. It's a good value. If you had your heart set on AMD, a similar CPU (and arguably better) is the AMD FX-8320. It's also $30 cheaper.

    In the build you have listed, you might as well lose the H80i. You don't need liquid cooling on a processor that isn't able to do any overclocking. The 4440 is locked and the standard cooler will do a good job. (if you pick the 4460, still ditch the liquid cooler. It's also locked. The AMD, however, is able to be overclocked and would benefit from liquid cooling, but I'm not sure if the H80 is compatible.)

    I don't see any reason to pick a microATX motherboard in this build. The ASRock Z97 Pro3 is similarly priced and has nice features. The Z87 Pro4 or the Z87 Extreme3 are also nice. The Gigabyte GA-Z87-DS3H is also nice. Consider what kind of system you're going for. You don't have to spend a ton on a motherboard, but make sure it has the features that you want. SLI, SATA 6gb, front USB3, etc. If you're planning to overclock, check to make sure the board is easy to work with also.

    Memory. 8gig is plenty for now. Get a kit that is dual channel(two sticks). If you picked a good motherboard, you can always add another 8gig kit later. Aim for DDR3 1600 at least. Don't cheap out too much on your memory. Watch the latency.

    The GTX 760 is a great card (I own two). Even on just one, there wasn't any game I couldn't run, but I have the 4gb version of this card and that's the one I'd suggest you pick up. It has a similar price tag, but you get 2 more gig out of it and memory on video cards is a pretty big deal. For me, this hits the performance per dollar sweet spot. Love these cards. Also consider a lower card like the 750ti. It's still going to give you some solid performance- maybe not Battlefield 4 Ultra Settings, but it sits right around the $100 mark.

    Most cases come with fans. Check the descriptions on some. A case is usually a case. Keep it clean and neat and you should be fine. More advanced cases are for more advanced users. Pick one that supports the features you want to use, like front USB 3.0.

    Basically, break it down to what kind of experience you want and match it with the money you have. If you have enough for a bare bones gaming system, then get a motherboard that is totally lacking features, but still supports your graphics card. Seriously, the bells and whistles usually don't add or subtract too much from the average users. Get a 'best value' processor. Gaming isn't really CPU heavy and you don't need the latest i7 chip (Minecraft, for example, is an exception as it pulls quite hard on the CPU). If you're on a budget, forget about overclocking. Save money on a locked processor and a motherboard that doesn't have tons of special 'overclocking' branding all over the box. With that said, if you see yourself coming into more money in say, the next month or so, consider purchasing a board that supports SLI. Pick up one card now and then add a second one when you can, to keep your rig running the latest games and looking sweet for a couple years. The 970 series is great, but really not needed right now if you're gaming in 1080p. Speaking of gaming, consider the games that you're looking to play and the level of quality you're looking to play them at. Then pick a card that makes more sense financially.

    Now, if I were to pretend that I was looking to build my first PC to get me into building them and set up a decent rig for myself, this is something that I would build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jkQVHx

    That would be something like what I'd be looking for. Good expandability if I have the money, good performance for current games and not a bad price point. Keep in mind that if you currently have a PC and just need an upgrade, that is always cheaper and can usually get you a couple more years just by adding a video card or RAM. Also, if you have a PC and have a hard drive and RAM already, it's probably going to be compatible and you can knock off about $120 to bring this particular build down to about $360.

    Anyway, check reviews, do your research, take your time. Good luck!
     
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    The stock cooler is pretty dang bad, maybe it was better when the 2500 came out but is is loud and hot today and replacing it is a good idea.
    Also the 770 is no longer manufactured
     
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  17. Squidword

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    Well eightnine. At the moment I am mosting playing minecraft and a little bit of TF2. So as you said Minecraft is an exception for having a good cpu so I am sticking with the i5.
    Here is a list of changes:
    -Removed the cpu cooler
    -Changed to a cheaper graphics card
    -Changed to ripjaws memory
    -Changed the motherboard

    This is the new pc list I have:
    http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/hcTB99
     
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    That looks like a very good build for your use, and very easy to upgrade the video card in the future thanks to that Motherboard :)
    Hope you enjoy it
     
  19. eightnine

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    I'm pretty confident you'll like those pieces. You should pull somewhere in the are of 150 fps in MC.
     
  20. Squidword

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    Ty eightnine and fill hopefully I will be able to buy that soon. Also I am thinks of changing the case or looking at some other cases. Any suggestions?
     

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