SOPA / P.I.P.A

Discussion in 'General Off-Topic' started by Godarehm, Jan 24, 2012.

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Are you against SOPA/PIPA?

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  3. I dont care

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  1. Godarehm

    Godarehm New Member

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    SOPA/PIPA, I hope they dont aprove this law... because we all can go to jail and lose everything...

    search about it on google, its not a joke my friends... we can act together.
     
  2. razer01

    razer01 Active Member

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    aaah chose no D:
     
  3. globster8

    globster8 Well Known Member

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    Whether you're for or against piracy, everyone should be against these laws.
     
  4. razer01

    razer01 Active Member

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    dont count my vote
     
  5. Neddzy

    Neddzy Forum Legend

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    You may want to expand on what it means. As some people dont get it.

    Some small sighted people think it means facebook will be deleted. x.X
     
  6. bajj597

    bajj597 Forum Legend

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    What Nedd said. Dont just copy & paste it, explain it for the incompetents :p
     
  7. globster8

    globster8 Well Known Member

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    The 2 bills are being presented as a way to stop piracy and protect US copyright holders. However, they are poorly written and will ultimately do little to stop piracy while at the same time doing much to harm legitimate websites such as facebook, twitter, youtube, google, image hosting sites, etc.

    SOPA targets sites that contain copyrighted material or even link to another site that contains copyrighted material. It would allow law enforcement to shut down an entire domain due to copyright infringements. The problem with this is sites that are composed of user created/submitted content (facebook, youtube, blogs, image hosts, twitter, etc). If a user of one of these sites were to post copyrighted material the US government *could* take down the entire site. That doesn't mean they would actually do that, but they shouldn't have that much power whether they are using it or not. This would also impact search engines and link directories such as google, yahoo, and DMOZ. They would have to filter and censor search results. This would require strict policing by these sites to make sure copyrighted things did not get posted - it could be costly to police and costly to pay fines. This could cause smaller sites to just shut down instead of risking breaking the law and many larger sites would likely just relocate to another country, thus causing a loss of jobs for US citizens and tax money for the US government. It's also possible that ISPs could face legal trouble for allowing access to sites hosting or linking to illegal content. This would put them in a position of filtering and censoring the sites they allow access to.

    PIPA serves the same purpose but comes at it from a different angle. The purpose of PIPA is to block access to sites hosting or linking to illegal copyrighted material at the DNS level - meaning the US DNS servers would block access to these sites completely. So if you were in the US and tried to access, for example, thepiratebay, the site would not be accessible at all (it would appear as if the domain name didn't even exist). I see no way to describe that other than censorship.

    The larger problem is that people who really want to access or provide pirated material will find a way around these restrictions. There are multiple ways of using proxies and private networks to get around any type of restriction the government can place. These laws will undoubtedly reduce the amount of piracy, but not significantly. The larger impact will be on the ISPs, search engines, and user contribution sites that have to deal with filtering and censoring their content.
     
  8. bajj597

    bajj597 Forum Legend

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    So essentially what glob said is that the government is putting in laws that are in theory good. But because there are always ways around shit, it will reduce, not take out piracy. This would also limit shit we can link to friends on social networking sites because then they would censor it in order to keep those sites up. And if they didnt censor, they could get shut down.
     
  9. globster8

    globster8 Well Known Member

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    Personally, I don't think they're good even in theory. Piracy is not going to go away - the music and movie industry need to find a way to work with it instead of against it. And instead of paying off the US government to write laws for them.
     
  10. Neddzy

    Neddzy Forum Legend

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    Well ths original concept wasn't meant to have that impact. But they were so goddamn vague with it that it coverd lots of materials.
     
  11. jokerr77

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    YAY! WOOT! Sopa is now deemed "Toxic"

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    Now that Congress has had time to process last week's internet blackout, a consensus has emerged: SOPA and PIPA are toxic for politicians, and going anywhere near them could cost them their re-election."
     
  12. Looken

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    woops voted no-.-
     

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